Discussion:
VirtualBox seamless mode
Vladimir Skuratovich
2009-04-09 20:05:37 UTC
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Hi,

Is it possible to set up the VirtualBox 'seamless mode', where it is
supposed to integrate with the window manager, so that the guest
windows are managed by Ion? Currently if I turn on seamless mode, the
only thing that changes is that the background of the guest desktop is
replaced with the root window of X.

Or is there any other VM software that can do that?

The host is Linux with X.org 1.6 and Ion3, the guest is Windows XP.

Regards,
Vladimir
Tuomo Valkonen
2009-04-10 05:59:01 UTC
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Post by Vladimir Skuratovich
Hi,
Is it possible to set up the VirtualBox 'seamless mode', where it is
supposed to integrate with the window manager, so that the guest
windows are managed by Ion?
Does it create managed windows or just override-redirects?
I'd expect the latter, which are likely to then get hidden
under Ion's tiling.
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Vladimir Skuratovich
2009-04-10 17:07:31 UTC
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Post by Tuomo Valkonen
Post by Vladimir Skuratovich
Is it possible to set up the VirtualBox 'seamless mode', where it is
supposed to integrate with the window manager, so that the guest
windows are managed by Ion?
Does it create managed windows or just override-redirects?
I'd expect the latter, which are likely to then get hidden
under Ion's tiling.
It seems that all guest window are drawn inside one X window even in
'seamless mode', so probably the latter.

Maybe some other virtual machine is able to create a separate X window
for each window inside the guest OS?
Klaus Umbach
2009-04-10 19:43:36 UTC
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Post by Vladimir Skuratovich
Post by Tuomo Valkonen
Post by Vladimir Skuratovich
Is it possible to set up the VirtualBox 'seamless mode', where it is
supposed to integrate with the window manager, so that the guest
windows are managed by Ion?
Does it create managed windows or just override-redirects?
I'd expect the latter, which are likely to then get hidden
under Ion's tiling.
It seems that all guest window are drawn inside one X window even in
'seamless mode', so probably the latter.
Maybe some other virtual machine is able to create a separate X window
for each window inside the guest OS?
Just use VirtualBox in standard-fullscreen-mode on a separate Workspace.
That's the most acceptable pain.

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Klaus
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Tuomo Valkonen
2009-04-10 19:54:03 UTC
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Post by Klaus Umbach
Just use VirtualBox in standard-fullscreen-mode on a separate Workspace.
That's the most acceptable pain.
No, that's Ion-in-cygwin-X-on-windows, after changing Mod1+Tab
to Mod1+Q in Ion. Integrates much better than a fully
keyboard-grabbing VM... albeit not perfectly :(.
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Timandahaf
2009-05-27 02:51:29 UTC
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Post by Tuomo Valkonen
Post by Klaus Umbach
Just use VirtualBox in standard-fullscreen-mode on a separate Workspace.
That's the most acceptable pain.
No, that's Ion-in-cygwin-X-on-windows, after changing Mod1+Tab
to Mod1+Q in Ion. Integrates much better than a fully
keyboard-grabbing VM... albeit not perfectly :(.
What works best for me is to run VirtualBox's VRDP server, and use
rdesktop from Linux to interact with your VM, instead of using
VirtualBox's standard fullscreen mode. The biggest advantage of this (in
addition to things being snappier) is that 'rdesktop -K' will not do any
keyboard grabbing:


-K Do not override window manager key bindings. By default rdesktop
attempts to grab all keyboard input when it is in focus. [1]

[1] rdesktop man page.
Timandahaf
2009-05-29 06:49:22 UTC
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Post by Tuomo Valkonen
Post by Klaus Umbach
Just use VirtualBox in standard-fullscreen-mode on a separate Workspace.
That's the most acceptable pain.
No, that's Ion-in-cygwin-X-on-windows, after changing Mod1+Tab
to Mod1+Q in Ion. Integrates much better than a fully
keyboard-grabbing VM... albeit not perfectly :(.
What works best for me is to run VirtualBox's VRDP server, and use
rdesktop from Linux to interact with your VM, instead of using
VirtualBox's standard fullscreen mode. The biggest advantage of this (in
addition to things being snappier) is that 'rdesktop -K' will not do any
keyboard grabbing:


-K Do not override window manager key bindings. By default rdesktop
attempts to grab all keyboard input when it is in focus. [1]

[1] rdesktop man page.

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